The Excellent Wife (TEW) has been gearing up for the All-Paces ride scheduled by the Princeton Freewheelers for today. She has had her eye on the D+ ride, and said that if she met her mileage and pace goals, she wanted to come with me to do that ride while I did one at my pace; she is eager to meet some more of the club members (and she realizes that if I'm going to ride as much as I do, one of the ways to spend more time together is for her to ride, too). So off we sent this morning to Mercer Park for the 9am start.
Now, let me tell you some of my thinking that wound up not working out very well: I usually add miles to my rides, and I wouldn't be doing that today because TEW isn't about to add miles. So I figured, instead of adding miles, I'd do a B+ ride; perhaps that would be about the same effort. So, although Tom H and a few friends decided to do a pickup ride, I decided to go out with John & Jane D. Laura OLPH decided to go with them, too.
We did this route.There was a woman who came along with John W who has ridden mostly C+/B rides, and I figured if she was along, I'd certainly be able to keep up.
We started with eighteen, including Sergei, with whom I rode a bit a few years ago. Sergei's a bit of a charger-ahead, and we weren't far into the ride when he and three others missed a turn (they were far ahead of the leader), and we were down to fourteen. I swept for a while, and did my turn at the front of the group as well. We did a number of roads I remember from Winter Larry's rides (we passed the Russian Church), and went up the hill at Rues that I remember coming down a number of times with the Old Guys.
Going up the hill at Rues, though, I noticed problems breathing and dull neck and chest pain (no, not heart-attack stuff, just exhaustion). I'm sure I neither drank nor ate enough, and I didn't sleep well last night, and all that, I'm sure, was catching up to me. Pride, however, would not let me let on how tired I was.
Another rider, later, seemed to be tiring and having trouble in a headwind. Having a bit more energy than he, I gave him a pull into the wind, but, truth to tell, I was grateful for the opportunity to fall behind the group. We stopped to gather at an intersection, and, shortly after that, I couldn't find him among the riders; I think he fell behind. I caught up to John & Jane, who thought he was ahead, but then they didn't see him either, and went back to get him. I had sat down in the shade, and, when the rest of the group got up to go on, I was dizzy when I stood up. It cleared a bit when I got on the bike, but I still didn't have the speed I had earlier.
I maintained a B+ pace on the flats and downhills, but on the slightest upgrade I slowed way down. I eventually made it back to Mercer Park (remember that woman who'd done the C+/B rides? We had a conversational exchange about, "I'm done." "Me too."). I got the last soda out of the cooler, and made TEW drive home.
Her good news, though,was that she had done her D+ ride, and had a good time... and her computer was still under-registering, so she is faster and goes farther than she thinks (she was ALL bucked up by that news!). And she would ride with the group again, and she's thinking of getting a road bike (her fellow riders were urging her to do so!).
So I'm happy to say that it seems there will be more rides that both of us do in the future. And I'll try not to be an idiot about overexerting myself, and being too proud to admit it, next time.
Y'know what else? It may be partly because I didn't know these people that well, but this ride wasn't as chatty as the B rides I usually do. That's a lot of the reason I like groups and club rides, and I missed that today. I guess every now and again I gotta get my speed on, and over-extend myself (and pay for it), but I'm going back to B rides. For a while, anyway.
I have to leave my blog open for Saturday's ride listing, and you've done such a good job of chronicling today's ride, so I'm going to comment here instead.
ReplyDeleteI was riding above my pay grade today. Sometimes I have to ride with these guys to remind myself of why I don't ride with these guys. Yeah, I hung in, but at what price hanging in?
I'd rather not be nervous for 50 miles. I'd rather get to know the people I'm riding with. I'd rather not hear about which roads are Strava roads. I'd rather not be in the middle of a pissing contest; I get enough of that during the week (don't blog about work!).
On one hand, I found out that I can keep that pace if I'm well-rested, well-fed, well-watered, and well-caffeinated. I recruited two riders for the Event century and reinforced my doubts about a third who wants to join us. I caught up with a few folks I haven't seen for a while. And, after the ride was over, I lured your above-mentioned C+/B rider into thinking about becoming a Hill Slug.
On the other hand, almost all of my favorite biking buddies went with Tom and I didn't. That sucked.
Back to B. Saturday. Mercer County Park.
It was nice to have you present on today's ride Laura. You were not only hanging in there today, but instead were part of the pace pushing crowd. So I am kind of surprised at a few of your comments. But you do know how you felt, so who am I to say anything? As you know, I frequent quite a few B+ rides in the club - especially the ones that are sometimes called A rides in disguise. Strava NEVER comes up! Today's ride was in fact a strong B ride masquarading as a B+ ride. I think you would do yourself a lot of good to try to fit such a ride in at least once a month. Riding is not ALL about socializing. It is also about improving one's fitness. And riding the same 'ol same 'ol ride that is in your comfort zone is not going to help you improve. The other thing to keep in mind that the more variety in your rides, then the more people you will meet, and the more buddies you will ultimately have.
DeleteOn yours:
ReplyDelete"I recruited two riders for the Event century..."
Jud H and The Other Jim?
"And, after the ride was over, I lured your above-mentioned C+/B rider into thinking about becoming a Hill Slug."
Yay!
As for the rest... as we Quakers say, "This Friend speaks my mind."
Back to B Saturday, Mercer County Park. Maybe extra miles. I'm not THAT cured yet.
Thanks for coming along on the ride. And thanks a lot for posting the route - you really saved me since I messed up my Garmin tracking today. Sorry to hear you were a little tired. I thought you did a very nice job on the ride today. It really was a Strong B rather than a B+ ride. Those type of rides (the Stong B) don't come along all that often east of Route 1. They do pop up on the West side of Route 1 a bit, especially out of Ringoes when Harnett and Palis lead rides.
ReplyDelete@ JeffX: Catullus
ReplyDelete@ Plain Jim: Yep, Jud and the Other Jim. Except that Other Jim emailed me that he checked his calendar when he got home. It turns out he can't make it to the Event because he's getting married that day. Good thing he checked his calendar.
"It turns out he can't make it to the Event because he's getting married that day."
DeleteHrmph. I think you need to tell him to examine his priorities.
Well I tried. The club asked for ride leaders to step up and lead an "honest" b+ pace. This was in reaction against the grade inflation of most B rides (like Gary's and Jane's) because the B+ tend to average in the A range. Jane and I really enjoy Gary's ride because it has an easy-going chit chat social attitude in addition to being a fast pace ride (b+). This was our goal for yesterday's ride.
ReplyDeleteSuccess or failure? If failure, what is the club to do?
In any event, thanks for coming out on my experiment of seeing what the reactions to an honestly ridden ride to the club guidelines would be.
Nice ride yesterday John (& Jane). I will tell you that it is not the Ride Rating that attracts club members to a particular ride - it is the individual ride leaders. Sad, but true, creating a successful ride is for the most part a personality contest. People trust the ride leader - not the ride rating. I chose your ride yesterday because I knew EXACTLY what to expect, and you delivered. Thanks for leading!!
DeleteYou kind of lucked out yesterday when the four pace-pushers got lost early on the ride. It would be nice if those who show up for a ride try to fit into what the group as a whole expects the ride to be. Unfortunately, any group with size of 10 or more will have fast riders and slow riders and a few who want to show off. This makes it difficult for the ride leader to do his or her job. And should a ride leader really be expected to hold the group together? Or should the ride leader just be expected to plan the route, learn the route, ride the pace as advertised, and maybe provide some mechanical assistance if a breakdown occurs?
I was going to keep my mouth shut, but I have to defend John and Jane here. To do this, I need to take apart, piece by piece, what JeffX has written:
ReplyDelete"It was nice to have you present on today's ride Laura. You were not only hanging in there today, but instead were part of the pace pushing crowd."
John and Jane were exemplary in keeping the pace steady. The three who disappeared off the front early on notwithstanding, those who went out in front stopped at the intersections to wait for the rest of the group. As someone who spent most of her time in the middle and towards the back, I do wonder how I could have been pushing the pace.
"As you know, I frequent quite a few B+ rides in the club - especially the ones that are sometimes called A rides in disguise. Strava NEVER comes up!"
Eighteen people on a fifty-mile ride and one cyclist didn't hear two conversations? How could that possibly happen?
"Today's ride was in fact a strong B ride masquarading as a B+ ride."
According to the FreeWheeler pace guidelines, outlined here: http://princetonfreewheelers.com/club-ride-categories-speeds/, yesterday's B+ ride was, indeed a B+ ride. My middle-of-the-pack average was 17.4. I bring this up because, as ride leaders, we all have the responsibility to keep to the advertized pace. In order to do this, one must know what pace one is required to hold and review the guidelines as necessary.
"I think you would do yourself a lot of good to try to fit such a ride in at least once a month. Riding is not ALL about socializing. It is also about improving one's fitness. And riding the same 'ol same 'ol ride that is in your comfort zone is not going to help you improve."
Here, one is assuming that bloggers such as Jim and I are using our blogs to log every minute of physical exertion. I, for one, do not. My readers are unaware of my gym schedule; nor are they privy to the amount of effort I am exerting on any given ride, commute, weightlifting session, Spinning class, nor what is required of me at my day job. And I shall remain silent on the subject because, frankly, nobody really gives a damn where my heart rate is. As for "improvement," being a faster rider does not make one a better person.
"The other thing to keep in mind that the more variety in your rides, then the more people you will meet, and the more buddies you will ultimately have."
That, I fear, is mere truthiness. Amicitia quam celeritate. Look it up.
John - I have no complaints about your lead; my problem on the ride was from my failure to prepare adequately. It seems to me you promised to turn in an "honest B+" ride, and that is what you did. In addition, despite the club warning that there is no obligation on a B+ ride to wait for stragglers, I seem to remember you went back to ensure that a straggler was, indeed, OK. What else could someone ask?
ReplyDeleteI will happily ride one of your rides, or Jane's, again, when I have the chops to do so. As I've told you in person, I like riding with you; we're generally well-matched, and we appear to be just competitive enough with each other to keep each other honest. I look forward to seeing you both again.